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 02-15-2005, 09:37 Post: 106149
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"The US tried this social experiment back in the 1800's, the so called western era. What most folk don't realize is that it was a relatively short lived period (about 25 years). It was short lived because society could not tolerate the loss of life associated with everyday individuals blasting one another away over all manner of disputes."

This is one of the best examples I have ever seen of the nature of the true problem.

The statement above is passed off as true and no one questions it because we have all seen the proof. The only problem is the "proof" is a lie called a motion picture.

Most were made 100 years or more after the fact by people who were not there and got their information from what amounted to the National Enquirer of the era.

Imagine someone making a "true story" of life in America circa 1980 in the year 2220. The surviving source material consists of hours of daytime soap operas, porno flicks and lurid grocery store tabloids.

THEN..... your descendants pass judgment on you for your amoral, flat earth/saquatch beliefs and behaviors and set about passing laws and social reforms to prevent society from returning to a time that never existed in the first place.

It goes way beyond the whole gun thing.... I have met many anti-hunting types who got the foundations of their social agendas for Disney cartoons. Run Bambi, it's hunters!

We've got to do better than that.






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 02-15-2005, 10:57 Post: 106158
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Ann, forgive me for leaving the impression that I was painting you with the anti-hunting brush (pun intended). That was not my intent. I was cleaning my analogy when it went off.

I am one of those retired LEO types. My experience is that the vast, vast majority of those shootings you see on TV every night have a lot more to the story than you can get from Tom, Dan or Peter in 15 seconds.

Most cases have years of domestic violence behind them or other repetitive bad behaviors and judgments.
You never hear that the cops have been separating them for years and they keep coming back together like moths to the flame until one kills the other and then commits suicide.

Then the talking heads cluck about the gun being at fault, but they never blame the kitchen knife that gets used when the gun got hocked for drugs the week before.

And when have you heard a call to ban gasoline when arson is used to kill?

What do you call it when some unwashed street dealer gets whacked after selling the wrong guy baking soda at cocaine prices for the 100th time? Is that a gun problem? Society is awash with guns and now some poor druggy is dead?

What happens when he gets run down by his antagonist with a stolen car? Now we have a car problem? Society is awash with cars? You should give up your car to make society safer? Eh?

There is one plain fact: every place that honest citizens are "allowed" to carry guns has seen a decline in violent personal crime and an increase in property crime. Criminals are dumb but they are not stupid.

If guns cause crime, then flys cause manure and fire extinguishers cause fires.







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 02-15-2005, 11:12 Post: 106161
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There are no "brave" criminals.

They still have to make a living and they do figure out there isn't much future in robbing passers-by with a broken bottle when there is a likelihood of being confronted with a handgun and shot for their stupidity.

So they start looting parked cars and doing daylight burglaries..... after ringing the doorbell to make sure there is no one home and shoplifting, etc.






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